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		<title>PMean: What does large mean when talking about negative values?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2017 16:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Professor Mean, I saw a paper where the authors said that they wanted a diagnostic test with a large negative likelihood ratio, because it was important to rule out a condition. False negatives mean leaving a high risk condition untreated. But don&#8217;t they mean that they want a diagnostic test with a small likelihood [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Dear Professor Mean, I saw a paper where the authors said that they wanted a diagnostic test with a large negative likelihood ratio, because it was important to rule out a condition. False negatives mean leaving a high risk condition untreated. But don&#8217;t they mean that they want a diagnostic test with a small likelihood ratio?</em></p>
<p>Okay, I agree with you, but it&#8217;s an understandable mistake. Let&#8217;s quickly review the idea of likelihood ratios. A positive likelihood ratio is defined at Sn / (1-Sp) where Sn is the sensitivity of the diagnostic test and Sp is the specificity. For a diagnostic test with a very high specificity, you get a very large ratio, because you are putting a really small value in the denominator. For Sp=0.99, for example, you would end up getting a positive likelihood ratio of 50 or more (assuming that Sn is at least 0.5).</p>
<p>The positive likelihood ratio is a measure of how much the odds of disease are increased if the diagnostic test is positive.</p>
<p>A negative likelihood ratio is defined as as (1-Sn) / Sp. For a diagnostic test with a very large sensitivity, the negative likelihood ratio is very close to zero. For Sn=0.99, the likelihood ratio is going to be 0.02 or smaller, assuming that Sp is at least 0.5.</p>
<p>The negative likelihood ratio is a measure of how much the odds of disease are decreased if the diagnostic test is negative.</p>
<p>The two likelihood ratios should remind you of the acronyms SpIn and SnOut. SpIn means that if specificity is large, then a positive diagnostic test is good at ruling in the disease. This isn&#8217;t always the case, sadly, and for many diagnostic tests, the next step after a positive test is not to treat the disease, but to double check things using a more expensive or more invasive test.</p>
<p>SnNout means that if the sensitivity is large, then a negative diagnostic test is good at ruling out the disease. You can safely send the patient home in some settings, or start looking for other diseases in different settings.</p>
<p>That sounds great, but sometimes you are very concerned about false negatives, and you don&#8217;t want to send someone home if they actually have the disease. If you are worried about a cervical fracture, ruling out the fracture and sending someone home might lead to paralysis or death if you have a false negative. So you want to be very sure of yourself in this setting.</p>
<p>Now with regard to the comment above, I think it is just a case of careless language. When the authors say &#8220;large negative likelihood ratio&#8221;, they should have said &#8220;extreme negative likelihood ratio&#8221; meaning a likelihood ratio much much smaller than one. I&#8217;ve done it myself when I talk about a correlation of -0.8 as being a &#8220;big&#8221; correlation because it is very far away from zero.</p>
<p>We tend to shy away from words like &#8220;small&#8221; when we talk about a negative likelihood ratio being much less than 1, because &#8220;small&#8221; in some people&#8217;s minds means &#8220;inconsequential&#8221; when the opposite is true. When I am careful in my language, I try to use the word &#8220;extreme&#8221; to mean very far away from the null value (1 for a likelihood ratio or 0 for a correlation) rather than &#8220;large&#8221; or &#8220;small&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>PMean: The Likelihood Ratio Slide Rule poster submission</title>
		<link>http://blog.pmean.com/slide-rule-poster/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 16:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I submitted a poster to the 2015 UMKC Faculty Research Symposium (described at the UMKC Office of Research Support website). It&#8217;s a chance to show off some of the work I did a while back and to look for collaborators among other UMKC faculty for future research projects. The Likelihood Ratio Slide Rule. The Likelihood [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I submitted a poster to the 2015 UMKC Faculty Research Symposium (described at the <a href="http://ors.umkc.edu/office-of-research-services/2015-faculty-research-symposium">UMKC Office of Research Support website</a>). It&#8217;s a chance to show off some of the work I did a while back and to look for collaborators among other UMKC faculty for future research projects.<span id="more-573"></span></p>
<p>The Likelihood Ratio Slide Rule.</p>
<p>The Likelihood Ratio Slide Rule is a pocket sized device that allows you to calculate the post test probability of disease after a positive or negative result on a medical diagnostic test. It is loosely based on the Fagan Nomogram (Fagan TJ. NEJM 1975, Jul 31; 293(5): 257). This poster will show practical uses of the slide rule, including estimating positive and negative predictive values for varying disease prevalence levels and calculating a range of pre-test probabilities for which a diagnostic test is unnecessary. You can pick up one of these slide rules at the poster session while supplies last.</p>
<p>This slide rule was originally developed in 2002 and described on my website at <a href="http://www.pmean.com/08/sliderule.html">www.pmean.com/08/sliderule.html</a>.</p>
<p>In future blog entries, I will update and revise that page and share more details about this slide rule and how it works.</p>
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		<title>PMean: Validating a test of diabetes</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2015 16:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Professor Mean, I have a simple algorithm that determines whether a person is diabetic or not. I am planning on validating this algorithm, and I need to know how many patients I need to sample. Is there a formula I could use? There are many ways to validate. I&#8217;m guessing here, but I suspect [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Professor Mean, I have a simple algorithm that determines whether a person is diabetic or not. I am planning on validating this algorithm, and I need to know how many patients I need to sample. Is there a formula I could use?<span id="more-451"></span></p>
<p>There are many ways to validate. I&#8217;m guessing here, but I suspect that you want to compare your algorithm, which is simple, cheap, or fast, to a gold standard measure of diabetes. The gold standard is something that has been around for a while and is well trusted by doctors, but it may be a lot more expensive or time consuming that what you are proposing.</p>
<p>Establishing validity in this framework is typically done by establishing that your sensitivity and specificity are large enough. You want to select a sample size so that the confidence intervals for sensitivity and specificity are reasonably narrow. A key statistic here is the proportion of patients in your sample that will have diabetes according to your gold standard.</p>
<p>Psychologists use terms like &#8220;criterion validity&#8221; or &#8220;predictive validity&#8221; in this case, though I am always a bit unclear on their terminology. That&#8217;s probably more of a limitation on my intellectual capacity than a criticism of their definitions.</p>
<p>Note that there is no &#8220;power&#8221; involved in this calculation. The reason for this is that validity is not something that is easily reduced to a simple hypothesis test.</p>
<p>If you want more details, I talk about sample sizes needed for a study of a diagnostic test at <a href="http://www.pmean.com/04/SampleSizeDiagnostic.html">http://www.pmean.com/04/SampleSizeDiagnostic.html</a></p>
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		<title>Recommended: What&#8217;s so good about &#8220;early&#8221; anyway.</title>
		<link>http://blog.pmean.com/early/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jan 2014 18:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This page has moved to <a href="http://new.pmean.com/early-diagnosis/">a new website</a>.</p>
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